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Interested in climate change? I've got a Stack of articles, right here! kajm.deviantart.com/gallery/33…

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Came across an interesting article today, and thought perhaps it might help extend your insight on the climate-change argument.

 

You are of course aware that pro-‘man-made’ climate change alarmists have claimed that we CANNOT! POSSIBLY! SURVIVE! a 2C increase in the Earth’s average global temperature. It is too much, we’ve / the world have never seen anything this warm before, we’re pumping too much CO2 into the atmosphere, more than anything ever seen before, the warming of the world is OUR fault, we MUST do something about it NOW, and so forth.

 

What they have never told you is that the 2C limit was arbitrarily chosen by an economist. Apparently they don’t give a Fig about a person being a ‘climate scientist’ if the supposed info fits their agenda. History of the claim here www.carbonbrief.org/blog/2014/…

 

And of course they had to make warmer periods in the past disappear. The Medieval Warm Period, for example, covered by over 1200 peer-reviewed papers (and which has been shown to be global, despite claims that it was somehow ‘confined’ to Europe and Greenland), was clearly warmer than we are now. And just in the past 11,000 years there have been even Warmer periods.

 

But they can’t allow these to stand. They’ve been teaching the up-coming generations for the last 20 years that Today is ‘the hottest evuh!’ and we can’t possibly survive much more of this.

 

So the MWP has been disappeared as much as possible climatism.wordpress.com/2013/1…

 

And of course Michael mann’s ‘hockey stick’ reconstruction of the past thousand years of temperatures was  complicit in that fraud.

 

The up-coming generations have been taught to *NOT* question authority. ‘Science!’ is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you secularism, and climate scientists are Incorruptible Gods of Truth.

 

So when I saw the following article, I thought it might help give some more insight on the climate-change argument. It comes complete with the thoughts of a skeptic, and the 'thoughts' of two pro-AGW types:

 

 

The pleasant Cretaceous life

When the insanity of one climate fearmonger trumps the others

When you look at a 2009 blog post about geology, you may quickly figure out what the life was like in Cretaceous (German: K for Kreide, Czech: křída, meaning chalk), the geological period belonging to mesozoic era ("second mountains" in the outdated Czech terminology I was still taught: doesn't "ancient mountains", "first, second, third, fourth mountains" sound easier to remember?).



The Powderville Rocks [Prachovské skály], fun sandstone rocks in the Bohemian Paradise, the Bohemian Cretaceous Basin. A 1977 song by Ivan Mládek, Powderville Rocks, about the mountain climbers, climberesses, and climberbabies was one of the hits of my kindergarten years and beyond.

Cretaceous – 145 to 65 million years ago – came after the Jurassic Period in the same mesozoic; but was followed by Paleogene, the first period of the Cenozoic Era. The 2009 TRF text gives us some basic data:

The Cretaceous: 1700 ppm, 18 °C

figs, magnolias, some mammals, birds, modern sharks

Oil around Venezuela; Earth by 4 °C warmer than today; see Climate Audit
It was clearly a wonderful time to be around. Simply search for Cretaceous at Google Images. Do these pictures look like an environment that is hostile to life?

 These days, the average temperature of the globe is slightly below 15 °C. The optimum room temperature that people prefer may be 23 °C so the average global temperature in the Cretaceous period was still too cold but it was "in between" the temperature we experience today and the temperature we would prefer.

The CO2 concentration was great, too (4+ times higher than today), allowing the plant growth rate to be about twice the contemporary value, but the concentration was still 6 times lower than the concentration at which some people start to feel dizzy.

When I promote this tourist destination for your time machine travel agency, I can't promise you safety in the presence of dinosaurs and unknown microorganisms. And be careful about the Chicxulub bolide that will hit Mexico (and the Earth) at the end of the Cretaceous period, the K-Pg boundary. If you visit the Cretaceous period, recommend the individuals over there to build a wall around Mexico to protect the rest of the world. The wall should be paid for by the Mexican government.
 
Concerning the continents, Africa was much closer to South America than it is today. Various maps disagree about the question whether Europe was a separate continent. India was near Madagascar, expecting a long journey to connect with Asia.



The Cretaceous period was generous to the Czech lands, too. The large Northern green area is the Bohemian Cretaceous Basin. In Czech, it's called "Česká křídová pánev/tabule" and the word "pánev" otherwise means either "pelvis" or "frying pan" while "tabule" is the "blackboard". ;-)

You can see that the darker bluish grey area around Pilsen is the Pilsner Basin which boasts Carboniferous sediments. They're very old – the period took place between 360 and 300 million years ago, well before Cretaceous. Well, the Proterozoic Era light grey area around Pilsen is even older, half a billion years or so.



Carboniferous sediments. The rocks near the ponds of Pilsen where I am going to swim tonight again – because tropical (above 30 °C) temperatures returned today – are similar.

But let me return back to the Quaternary Period in which the climate fearmongers flooded the Earth.

One of them is Capitalist Imperialist Pig, a left-wing blogger who recently agreed with another alarmist Michael Bender that a few degrees of warming could be pretty great. And Eli Rabett who said that anything resembling the Cretaceous period would be a complete Armageddon. The pig doesn't like to be in the middle but that's where he found himself now – well, closer to the climate skeptics.



The Pravčice Gate, the largest sandstone arch in Europe and the main sightseeing in The National Park of Bohemian Switzerland (no kidding). Created by the erosion of marine sediments in the Cretaceous period. There are fun places in Czechia outside Prague to visit.

Note that it's a top secret that Capitalist Imperialist Pig's real name is Edward Measure (University of New Mexico) while Eli Rabett's real name is Josh Halpern (Howard University). No one knows these classified data – just like no one knows that Tamino's name is Grant Foster. ;-)

The Pig made a comment:
Cognitive Dissonance! I might be having a breakdown. Lubosh seems to be making sense and Eli appears to be hysterical, both on the subject of climate.
Well, the Pig must have closed his eyes for the previous decade if he has never noticed that Eli Rabett has always been hysterical – after all, that's why he's classified as "an unhinged climate fearmonger and psychopath" – while I seem to be making sense – a reason why I am often counted among the "climate realists".

It must be strange for an alarmist (e.g. the Pig) to see another alarmist (e.g. the Rabett) who is self-evidently a complete nut. Do you think that the Pig may have some empathy for the fact that from our even saner viewpoint, he looks as nutty as the Rabett looks from his perspective?



A selfie from the Cretaceous period.

Just to be sure, I am in no way surprised that the Pig may be in the middle. Although he's an extremely partisan and often combative guy defending the Democratic Party and its associated interests, I actually think that he is closer to the moderate Democrats and he is often politically incorrect and heretical from the truly "progressive" fringe's perspective.

But I want to emphasize how amazingly far from the understanding of totally basic science, science that is taught to the schoolkids in the basic schools, the likes of Eli Rabett have to be. These people want to believe that in the whole period between 145 million and 65 million years before Christ, the climate resembled the Armageddon that would be incompatible with the human life. Wow.

He must completely misunderstand the evolution of life. 100 million years – which separate us from the Cretaceous period – is just 2% of the age of the Earth. It is a very small percentage of the period in which life existed on Earth. And most of the time, most of the species weren't changing at all.



Late Cretaceous, Alaska

And when they were changing, the plant and animal species weren't really adapting to very different temperatures. The temperatures were remarkably stable during the Earth's history. The history of the species is not the history of the climate at all. There were much more important survival issues that the organisms had to address.

And from the viewpoint of "broader groups of organisms", the Cretaceous period was already like the "day before yesterday". The trees, reptiles, and lots of other groups were basically similar and sometimes nearly identical to the contemporary ones. And there were already lots of rather modern flowering plant, bird, and mammal species. There were no humans but some mammals were "somewhat related to us" and no other major group of organisms was missing. The Cretaceous period may have been richer than ours – after all, we don't encounter too many dinosaurs these days.

A scientifically literate person simply cannot believe that the Cretaceous climate would be bad for the humans. To believe that the humans would have a problem means to disbelieve that the life evolves in tens or hundreds of millions of years. To be the alarmist of Eli Rabett's type means to deny Darwin; deny evolution; deny geology; deny continental drift; deny pretty much all of science.

And these mental cripples use the term "deniers" for the climate realists. It is incredibly ironic, indeed.

Now, it's very likely that the Pig actually realizes the validity and importance of the comments above – that Eli Rabett can't possibly understand the basic school science – as well as we do. But he can't and he won't say it too explicitly because it may be dangerous for their whole alarmist movement if they started to admit that the skeleton of their movement is built out of many similar complete nut jobs.

I never hesitate to say that someone – either myself or anyone else, an alarmist, a skeptic, or anyone else – is an idiot whenever some relevant evidence supporting such a claim emerges. It still seems sensible to argue that among the climate skeptics who are science professors, there are none who would display this Eli-Rabett-caliber kind of rudimentary misunderstanding of geology or the history of the Earth and life.

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We've been though it before. Many times. We have not died, the Earth has not been ruined, we are quite capable of adapting. It ought to be obvious to anyone willing to take a look at a billion years' worth of climate history - which is something they desperately want you to NOT be doing.

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Soros is buying up coal companies. What's his goal? www.newsmax.com/Finance/Street… 

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SingABrightSong Featured By Owner 19 hours ago  Hobbyist Artist
An interesting development in solar energy, here. Scientists at Berkeley Lab have engineered bacteria to photosynthesise methane, in a "bioinorganic approach" www.pnas.org/content/early/201… .
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Kajm Featured By Owner 19 hours ago  Hobbyist Writer
Well there's the solution to the 'methane bomb' :P Just build facilities to do just that, right on top of the deposits.....
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This is why I call steven chu obamas eco czar the tin foil hat guy and enviromentalists the tin foil hat people.
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RuralCrossroads360 Featured By Owner 4 days ago
Thank you for the fave !:)
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I don't mean to be rude, but I really need points.
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Kajm Featured By Owner 5 days ago  Hobbyist Writer
I think you may have asked me once before.... Sorry to say, I don't have any at this time. I don't do much on here that would earn me any.
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Graeystone Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2015
And today was going so meh-
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Kajm Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
I have a thought for a comment there....
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I don't even know what to say about this.
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Kajm Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
How do they expect that to happen? We'd have to figure out how to attract and catch Just juvenile fish.... and right off the bat, the size of the catch would be much smaller, and SO much more expensive...
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