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Developed Vs. Poor Nations and the Environment by Kajm Developed Vs. Poor Nations and the Environment by Kajm
The above image shows the border between the Dominican Republic and Haiti.

Note the difference: the poor people of Haiti need every Scrap of their resources to survive.

The rich(er) people of the DR, do not.

Development, wealth, burning fossil fuels.... or poverty at every level, including environmental. Which does the environment better?

Keep on reading below. The stories of what happens when a nation is Poor, are tales of Disaster.
And organizations like the Sierra Club and the WWF, make it all possible.

How Environmental Organizations Are Destroying The Environment

Posted on June 25, 2013 by Willis Eschenbach

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

The Washington Post reports:

'During an April visit to the San Francisco home of billionaire and environmental activist Tom Steyer, who created a political action committee in March to target lawmakers supporting the Keystone pipeline, Obama noted that the issue of climate change “is near and dear” to Steyer and his wife, Kat Taylor.

“But — and I mentioned this to Tom and Kat and a few folks right before I came out here — the politics of this are tough,” Obama added, according to a White House transcript. “Because if you haven’t seen a raise in a decade; if your house is still $25,000, $30,000 underwater . . . you may be concerned about the temperature of the planet, but it’s probably not rising to your number one concern. And if people think, well, that’s shortsighted, that’s what happens when you’re struggling to get by.” '

I loved Obama’s description of economic trouble, characterizing it as “if your house mortgage is underwater” … around my place, that’s what is affectionately known as a “First World Problem”. But it beautifully illustrates the close relationship between economic want and lack of concern for the environment, even among people with money.

In this post, I will discuss the link between CO2 alarmism and environmental destruction, and how the work of the big environmental non-governmental organizations (NGOs) like Greenpeace and WWF is actively harming the environment.

Let me start with the two most important facts in the discussion about the global environment. First, half the people on the planet live on less than $2 and change per day. That’s why I said having your house mortgage underwater is a “First World Problem”. People living on $2 per day don’t have house mortgages—most of them don’t own houses, or much of anything beyond a few rags of clothing.

Second, only developed countries have ever cleaned up their own environment. Only when a country’s inhabitants are adequately fed and clothed and sheltered from the storms can they afford to think about the environment. And far from cleaning up the environment as wealthy countries can afford to do, people in poor countries are very destructive to the environment. Folks in poor countries will burn every tree if they have to, and you would too if your kids were crying. They will eat every monkey and consume the chimpanzees as the final course, and you would too if your family were starving. They will bemoan the necessity, they don’t like doing it any more than you or I would … but they will do it. Here’s the border between Haiti and the Dominican Republic:

Now, given that poverty is the greatest threat to the global environment, the inescapable conclusion is that the only way the global environment stands a chance is if poor countries can develop economically.

And that is why the anti-development, pro-expensive energy stance of the large environmental NGOs is one of the great environmental tragedies of our times.

Here’s the chain of causality:

1. Climate alarmists, with the strong support of the major environmental NGOs like Greenpeace and WWF, declared war on CO2.

2. The method that they chose to fight CO2 was to discourage fossil fuel use by making energy more expensive, using a combination of taxation, legislation, international pressure, and expensive subsidies to achieve that end. Obama’s War on Coal, announced today, is just one of hundreds of examples of the wealthy NGOs and the rich governments working to increase the price of energy.

3. Since energy is development, expensive energy keeps poor countries in poverty. When the World Bank denies loans for coal fired plants in India, the poor suffer … but the environment suffers more. Until they can afford to use coal and gas, they’ll run the country on wood … I refer you back to Figure 1 for how well that works out.

4. Expensive energy slows a country’s economic development, and as President Obama pointed out, people worried about money don’t pay attention to the environment.

This ends up in a bizarre position—the actions of the major environmental NGOs are ensuring continued environmental destruction in the developing world.

I learned about the connection between poverty and environmental destruction in part through sad experience. I discussed my conversation with the indigent Costa Rican firewood seller, and how he was cutting his firewood in the National Forest, in my post on the parrotfish. Here’s the story of a longer and sadder interaction with poverty and the environment.

I live surrounded by forest now, as I did when I was a child. I draw strength from it. My stepdad was a logger, as was his father, and I’ve worked in the woods setting choker. I’ve seen good logging, bad logging, and downright criminal logging, and I’ve always been passionate about protecting the forest and about ethical logging practices. Here’s the view of the redwood forest from my deck earlier, still rainy today …

For a couple years in the late 1980s, I was the Country Director of the Solomon Islands program of a development organization, something along the lines of “Save the Children” but with a more general focus. Among the projects I ran was the “Walkabout Sawmill” program. It was a winner. Instead of giving money for disaster relief after a cyclone, we bought some portable sawmills made next door in Papua New Guinea. We trained some teams of guys to use the sawmills, and sent them around to the villages to mill the trees that had been blown over by the cyclone. The villagers got wood, our guys learned to use the sawmills. Then when the project was over, we sold the sawmills on credit to the teams of guys, so that they could use them to log their own native lands.

Why was I glad to assist them in logging the forest? Because I knew that it was far preferable to the only other option, which was the rapacious Asian logging companies coming in and clear-cutting huge swaths of land. Because of their poverty, the Solomons were selling their patrimony, their incredibly valuable tropical hardwoods, for pennies.

And how did their poverty lead to the loss of their forests? I can give you the answer.

When a country is poor, you can buy anything.

For several years in the late 1980s I lived on a coral atoll near a large volcanic island with the most euphonious name of “Vella Lavella”, in the Western Province of the Solomon Islands. At that time the Solomons had extensive tropical forests full of very valuable hardwood. Overseas logging companies were coming in, paying pennies to the villagers for their logs, paying off the customs inspectors, and shipping away barge after barge of the treasure and the patrimony of the islands, their tropical trees. So I was happy to be able to offer the people the alternative of harvesting and tending their own forest.

So at that time, a Malaysian company made a move to get the rights to log all of Vella Lavella island. Some people said no, but there were some that wanted it. There’s a kind of local island council, with about five “Big Men”, local leaders, who make the decisions. People were passionate about the logging issue, as you might imagine. There was a meeting of the island council, and the logging company made their presentation. The big men, to their credit, voted the logging down.

So the company pulled out their wallets, and bought them off right there on the spot. After the folks had left, they declared the Council back in session, and voted the logging rights to the company. The only problem was, the results of the first meeting had already been entered in the official record.

Of course, it’s the Solomons, and these were local guys untutored in the criminal arts. So they just took some whiteout, and whited out where they had said “No logging”, and wrote the revised vote right over the old one.

When I heard that, I was both amused and outraged. So some of us got the Public Solicitor to take on the case, he was enthusiastic back then, it was before his illness. He ended up catching the disease that a lot of white guys catch in the tropics, it comes in a bottle and makes you feel terrible, but this was before he got sick. So he argued the case brilliantly and got the decision thrown out of court, we all cheered him on and felt like we’d won.

When the court decision was announced, the logging company did the obvious thing—this time they cheated according to the rules. They paid the island councilors off, but this time they paid them before the council meeting, so there was no need to change the official record … I was mondo bummed, as were my local friends.

So that inexpensive purchase of the island councilors, I heard it was ten grand US$ per man, gave the logging company the right to negotiate a contract with the locals if they wanted to sign. One afternoon, some of the young Vella Lavella guys made the trip over to the island where I lived to ask if I would help them. I bought the beers, and we talked about the logging company. They said that they’d been agitating to convince the people to keep the company out and take care of their own forests. But the sentiment among the people was against them. They wanted the easy money, just sit back and let the company do the work.

So they asked me, would I look at the contract and tell them what it was that logging company wanted them to sign. I said sure, and they gave me a copy of the accursed document.

My friends, I’ve seen some sly, crafty ways to cheat and cozen someone with a pen and a piece of paper, but this one fair reeked of sulfur. Inside it, black was white and white black. Outrageous things were proposed as though it would be of benefit to the local folks.

And the logging regulations themselves in the contract were abysmal. A 100-metre setback from streams and watercourses is considered the minimum to protect the waterways from sedimentation. They proposed a 10-metre setback and claimed they were doing it out of concern for the environment. Nor was there any limit to the gradient which they could log. Usually, steep slopes are protected from logging because the erosion and landslides are so damaging … they had no protection for them at all.

Then there were the penalties for felling a tree outside the designated area … ten dollars US per tree. At that time the Solomons hardwood, when milled and dried, was worth about US$1,400 per cubic meter, and some of the trees had three or more cubic metres. That meant if the loggers spied a valuable tree that was not on the land they were allowed to log, they could fell it, pay the locals $10 for it, and sell it for five thousand dollars …

But we’re nowhere near done. Then there was the little matter of the price. This, the company said, was the best part of the deal. Elsewhere in the Solomons people were only getting three dollars a cubic metre, but this company, from the goodness of their hearts, was offering no less that $10 per cubic metre …

Then there were the roads. On huge benefit of a properly managed logging operation is that the local people end up with roads connecting the coastal villages with the interior lands.

Or it can be a huge curse, because if the roads are not properly designed and constructed, then they wash out in the tropical rains and the roadways erode into open cuts and the land takes years to recover.

Well, this document pointed all of that out. It talked about the various quality of roads, from the logging roads in the interior all the way up to paved roads along the coast. There were pages of road specifications, and lovely black-and-white pictures of asphalt highways running by tropical beaches, with only one small problem.

The document described the roads, and the places that they planned to use them, and how well made they would be … but nowhere in the whole document did they actually agree to build one single metre of road, paved or not. It was all just a smoke screen, they promised nothing.

So I went over the whole document and marked it up. Then I met up with the guys again, and we went over the whole thing, clause by clause. I’d re-written about two-thirds of the clauses, and I’d worked with my friend the Public Solicitor, and we’d put together a document that would be a good deal for the locals. The loggers would still make out, but like businessmen, not like highway robbers.

It was a long meeting, the guys had lots of questions, and we discussed each and every clause so they knew why I’d made the changes, and what the changes meant to them. After previous discussions with a couple of the guys, we’d also added a section setting up a trust for the majority of the money, so it wouldn’t all get spent on beer and outboards and be gone in six months. They were very much in favor of that, they’d seen money pissed away before.

Then they were ready to meet with the representatives of the loggers. They asked me if I’d come with them to the meeting. I said I couldn’t … another expatriate that I knew had gone mano-a-mano with the loggers a few months before, and within a week his work permit had been pulled, and he had to leave the country. I couldn’t risk losing my work permit, but I said I knew they could do it, they understood the issues.

They asked, could they meet in one of the guest houses that I rented out on the island? I said sure, no problem They could have the meeting, and spend the night, go back to Vella the next day.

So the big night came for the meeting. Everyone showed up, loggers and islanders. I played the genial host, and left them to discuss the fate of the forest.

And in the morning? They all came out, shamefaced. I took one look, and my heart sank. I asked one of the old guys, one of the big men, what had happened. “Oh, the logger men were very nice! Can you imagine, they gave us a whole case of Black Label whiskey. They explained the contract, and it sounded wonderful, so we signed it” … oh, man, my blood was angrified mightily and I was in grave danger of waxing wroth … but I knew the old man, and he wasn’t a bad guy, just weak. So I curbed my tongue and shook my head, and I said that his sons might approve, but his grand children would wonder why he sold their birthright for pennies … then I went and talked to the young guys. They said they couldn’t stop it, once the big men were drunk they got combative and wouldn’t listen to anyone and they would have signed anything.

And at the end of the day, I realized that I was on a fool’s errand. Oh, I’d fight the fight again, in a minute, but I’d lose again. It’s what happens when big money hits a poor country—the environment gets screwed, whether it’s logging, fishing, or mining. Until the country is wealthy enough to feed its citizens and to protect itself, its resources are always on sale to the lowest bidder … by which I mean the bidder with the lowest morals.

Now, I started this sad tale for a reason, to give substance to the damage that poverty does to the environment. When you can buy an island council for ten grand a man and there are literally millions of dollars at stake, that council will get bought no matter how hard I fight against it. Per capita GDP in the Solomons is about $600 annually, it’s classed as an “LDC”, a Least Developed Country … and in a country where ten thousand dollars is almost twenty years wages, you can buy many people for ten large …

That is one of the main reasons that I’ve spent a reasonable amount of time working overseas trying to alleviate global poverty. I do it for the people first, but I do it for the environment second.

And that is why I feel so personally betrayed by the current mindless push for expensive energy, a push led by the very organizations I’ve supported because back in the day, they actually used to be for the environment, not against it. Raising energy prices is the most regressive taxation I know of. The poorer you are, the harder you are hit by rising energy costs, and the more the poor suffer, the more the environment bears the brunt.

So this is where I came in, explaining about how people fighting against CO2 hurt the environment. Let me repeat the links in the chain:

1. Led in part by the environmental NGOs, many people and governments have declared war on CO2.

2. Their preferred method of warfare is to raise energy prices, through subsidies, bans, taxes, renewable energy requirements, pipeline refusals, and the like.

3. The rise in energy prices both impoverishes the poor and prevents the development of poor countries.

4. As Obama pointed out, even wealthy people with economic worries tend to ignore the environment … so stomping on the development possibilities of poor countries by raising energy prices is a guarantee of years of environmental damage and destruction.

I say that history will not look kindly on those people and organizations who are currently impoverishing the poor and damaging the environment in a futile fight against CO2, even if the perpetrators are wealthy and melanin-deficient and just running over with oodles of good intentions …

My regards to each of you, keep fighting the good fight. I’ve had a rat-free day, and so all’s well with the world,



My own thoughts:

I would also like to suggest that if you can, read the book 'Eco-Fascists,' by Elizabeth Nickson.

The above piece was posted in response to oh!bummer!'s attack on the US, supposedly to stop 'carbon.'

Story and comments can be found here [link]

And here's one telling comment by a 'man-made' global warming True Believer:

'Ryan says:

June 26, 2013 at 5:13 am

The central premise of this post depends on the majority of climate scientists being mistaken. It also depends on a false dichotomy between prosperity and unlimited fossil fuel use. In both cases, the weight of experts in the field(who admittedly have had their beginner’s mind tainted with massive doses of reality) disagrees with your assessment. Does that concern you at all?'

Talk about absolutely missing the point! Just like scythemantis.

So far there has been one good response to this Idiocy:

'Ryan, unless you are living comfortably on $2 a day, not dependent on fossil fuels for your creature comforts, I would suggest you completely missed the point of the post and should just STFU.'


And that's it for the moment. Back to our vacation.
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Paraceratherium Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014
All the focus in the environment is about CO2 emissions these days.

The unsung threat is loss of wildlife habitat across the planet. It is idiotic to expect every single living human at this moment is obligated to carry an anthropocentric world view. The real threat to the planet is the misguided view that "helping" poorer countries means proselating the materialistic consumerist society of Western industrialized nations to them: "We want you to live like us!". This is best exemplified by the American Dream.

They measure prosperity by comparing another country's material living standards to theirs. Encouraging citizens in poorer nations to continue to harvest their natural heritage in unsustainable ways is just reprehenisble and downright morally wrong! Poor people are being consigned to a life of poverty for trying to attain a First World lifestyle!

Helping poorer nations out of crushing poverty is a directive, but we are not doing it right if it means clearing away more wilderness to house and feed the huddling and growing masses!
Kajm Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014  Hobbyist Writer

'We,' are doing NO such thing. The poor people of Haiti are cutting down their own forest because they are not developed and have very few energy resources. If you took any note whatsoever to what I wrote above, the much more Developed nation of the Dominican Republic, is able to PROTECT their resources, because they HAVE the energy resources they need. 'Western' whatever bullshit be Damned.


I don't think you have quite grasped that yet.

kantuck-nadie Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2013
That is an amazing photo, and enlightening article (but then everything you write has been enlightening.)

The photo suggests a set of giant kids came over and said "This is your side, and this is my side. DON'T CROSS IT!"

Of course, one of the giant kids reach over and touches their side and....I am reminded of Calvin and Hobbies now.

The immaturity shows even in this photo.
Kajm Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
You know what? Immaturity. That's a great analogy. The more advanced / 'grown up' a nation becomes, the better they are at taking care of what they own.
kantuck-nadie Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2013
That seems to be true, but all seem to go though a 'teen years' in culture. Look at the U.S. they killed off the passenger pidgin, and very nearly desimated the bison. But thankfully we grew up fast enough to keep them from going the way of the pidgin.

I only hope one day that the native americans and Caucasians will come together to mend the broken hoop. We can learn a lot from them over time. For what we, in our arrogance thought was right, we now see what little we did know.
tbolt Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Tangentially, some of this also has to do with property ownership rights as well... One of the reasons things are so bad in Haiti is the corrupt government that will not permit anything good to be built regardless... Anything nice and profitable gets taken over by bureaucrats and ruined as well...
Kajm Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
That's a good point, corrupt governments do play a huge role, both in environmental And AGW.
Conservatoons Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2013
see also San Diego / Tijuana, El Paso / Juarez
namezong Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2013
I think the real plan was never about saving the environment, but rather about neo-colonial domination of less fortunate countries and keeping poor poor; all the environmental concerns are hipocricy (I'm speaking about high-end folks there, like Al Gore; rank&file greanpeacers are well-intended misled people imo).
Kajm Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Would have to agree with just about all of that.
Graeystone Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2013
Are solar panels actually good for the environment and surrounding plant life? Panels absorb sunlight that would normally go to the surrounding planet life.(Photosynthesis) Would explain why a lot of pictures of solar panels are in dirt areas without little to no plant life most of the time.
Kajm Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I have to agree that they'd cause problems in that regard. I also wonder how they manage to keep them clean in the deserts... but that might be what they are talking about when they claim these create jobs. Someone has to dust them.
karkovice1 Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2013
I must've seen this photo a hundred times already.

I just Haiti will one day replant the trees they've taken, if they haven't done so already.

But you know what's funny? Every time I see "WWF", I keep thinking of the World Wrestling Federation. YES! I admit it! I'm a casual wrestling fan! =P
Kajm Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
That was the first time I had seen it, very startling.

Both WWFs have one thing in common- they are both full of Fakes!
karkovice1 Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2013
LOL. True. But, on the other hand, fake violence is more entertaining than REAL violence; i.e. boxing and extreme fighting/MMA/UFC. :)
Ah-Teen Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2013  Student Photographer
Funny, I saw the same thing looking out over North Korea. You could spot where the military was because that was the only place the trees hadn't been clear cut for firewood. While on the other side of the white stakes in the ground the trees were so thick you'd have trouble walking though them.

They have few resources as it is and their industrial waste is contaminating the oceans all around South Korea, Japan and China.

If you look at the south they were in exactly the same problems 30 years ago. Along with economic growth came the ability to care for the environment.
Kajm Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
MensjeDeZeemeermin Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2013
The picture AND the thousand words! But it's a great and very useful picture. Soviet-era environmental destruction in Russia was catastrophic.
Kajm Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I hear that.
BorisFedorov Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I say the enviromental needs of the people of the non Isdustrial Global South are more important than the greed, and hypocrisy of the State Capitalist economic System that dominates the United States, Germany, Japan and their friends at NATO, & EU. while using countries like Brazil, India and China as foundries of Wage Labor
Kajm Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
So you would agree that allowing them to develop and build power plants of their own is a good idea?
BorisFedorov Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
If a countries citizens want electricity for the industrialization and urbanization process in their land. That's the way to go. Like They wont be as wastful as the United States as a whole if they had the living standards of the West do to their culture and values.
Kajm Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
They are only human. And the US has done a massive amount towards cleaning up the environment and making their own emissions that much cleaner, over the past 40 years. That's the whole point of this article- more advanced countries are better able to protect and clean up the environment, than countries like Haiti. Bring Haiti up to US levels and they'll keep things cleaner, also.
BorisFedorov Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, like the photo shows. like coal saved alot of British trees during the 18th century
Kajm Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
*nods* That makes sense, agreed.
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