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Why is nobody listening to the IPCC itself?

By L Michael Hohmann

To leave no doubt, in an interview published in the Neue Zürcher Zeitung on 14 November 2010, Otto Edenhofer, co-chair of IPCC Working Group III, said,

"The climate summit in Cancun at the end of the month is not a climate conference, but one of the largest economic conferences since the Second World War…. one must say clearly that de facto we redistribute the world's wealth by climate policy…. One has to rid oneself of the illusion that international climate politics have anything to do with environmental concerns."

I am getting bored. The globe can be getting warmer or colder, but the idea that the human contribution from burning carbon fuels has anything to do with it is not only IMHO the biggest political and intellectual fraud ever – but so says the IPCC itself.

The ongoing discussion pro and con is becoming akin to the scholastic argument as to how many angels can dance on the head of a needle. Which is, of course, exactly what is intended to achieve worldwide disorientation away from the actual IPCC aims of monetary and energy policies – and bringing a whole, if not all, of science into disrepute."

 

iceagenow.info/2013/09/listeni…

 

EPW POLICY BEAT: 'SPREAD THE WEALTH AROUND'

If you've ever wondered why the international community convenes climate meetings in far-flung locales (Cancun, or perhaps Bali), then look no further than Otto Edenhofer, a German economist and an official with the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).  Such grand confabs are not, as one would suppose, about climate change, its causes, or actions to avert and adapt to it. 

In fact, as Edenhofer sees it, such things are irrelevant, as the climate conference is "not a climate conference, but one of the largest economic conferences since the Second World War."  Indeed.

What does he mean?  In an interview with German media outlet Neue Zurcher Zeitung, Edenhofer said that developed countries, i.e. the United States, have "expropriated the atmosphere of the world community."  "But one must say clearly," he asserted, "that we redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy."  In other words, as one debunked economist might have put it, the expropriators should be expropriated.

If that doesn't put it bluntly enough, Edenhofer goes on to say: "One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy.  This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole."  [Emphasis ours.]

It apparently has a lot to do with the American taxpayer, who would be part of the expropriated class.  The big winner, in Edenhofer's view, would be Africa, "and huge amounts of money will flow there." 

Edenhofer's remarks are of a piece with former French President Jacques Chirac, who said in 2000 that Kyoto Protocol was the "first component of an authentic global governance." And Margot Wallstrom, the European Union's former Environment Commissioner, who said in 2001 that Kyoto is about "trying to create a level playing field for big businesses throughout the world."  Which is to say that Cancun is about something other than saving the planet from the ravages of humanity. 

Rather, it is about using climate change as a stalking horse for more regulation and control of the private economy, and about redistributing wealth from American taxpayers to, among others, China and India.  For Cancun is based on the principle that, as one Presidential candidate famously put it, when "you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." 

 

www.epw.senate.gov/public/inde…

 

Note to sicklebug - shove your 'no politics in climate science' UP YOUR A$$.

 

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We're heading for 18 years.
But as they continue to push the meme, science is pushed to the back burner, and replaced by advocacy. And that advocacy is starting to push out scientists who's work indicates MAJOR problems with the UNproven theory.

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   The new '97%' paper Continues to Die a Slow Death.They keep trying to come up with '97%' And they keep FAILing.
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I think it is an apt description of the process that led to Cook et al. (2013) Quantifying the consensus on anthropogenic global warming in the scientific literature because that paper is in fact, a product of a crowd evaluating a crowd. As an example, Dr. Richard Tol has just discovered that using Cook’s own data, the consensus number Cook should have published is 98%, rather than 97%.
Dr. Tol writes in a critique of the Cook et al paper:
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I'm exhausted. Cyclical dreams, full of images that make no sense, keep waking me up. Why is this being such a rough week!?!

  • Mood: Contempt
  • Reading: Atlas Shrugged
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tbikape Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2013
And you're reading Ayn Rand...could you be any more full of fail?
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Kajm Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Why don't you make the effort to FIND OUT what I think of ayn rand, having read some of her works? Before you trot out the shit you use for brains.
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FlipswitchMANDERING Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2013
"well....all of our global warming fearmongering has been exposed as bullshit, so lets change the name to climate change." 
-Al Gore and company/

Calling global warming "climate change" is like calling herpes, sex.
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2013  Professional General Artist
Climate CHANGE is real. It is Al Gore's Church of Climatology and Man Made "Global Warming" that is just pure political BS. All the planets are warming up and last I checked, there are no SUVs on Mars. LOL. Not to mention, when some sections of the Earth get warmer, other sections get COOLER. But they don't like to mention this hahaha.
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tbolt Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Even before all this came out, I saw environmentalism as the biggest power grab by the government since the New Deal.
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